Posted on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 07:26 — by The Trouble I See
I THOUGHT SHERLOCK HOLMES AND NEM CAUGHT HIM SO DONT RAILROAD THE MAN YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU GUYS MAY BE WRONG AS USUAL!!
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Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7
I have been reading your lame reasoning about poor disadvantaged kids creating murder, mayhem, and theft. Let's get to the truth. This is NOT out of ghettoized desperation. Have you seen the recent arrest of two black Union City (not Oakland) Kids after sixteen robberies...one involving a 65 year old woman hospitalized after being thrown down, and eight + serious crimes of theft and robbery committed in Hayward Not Oakland) by black youth in just one week ??? Sure....there are outside circumstances, but come on...this is more than coincidence. Families have to take of the responsibility. Our apartment building gets trashed. Kids breaking bottles in the middle of the street on their way home from school. Sixth graders in baggy attire whose every other sentence contains M-- F--. Don't give me this victim crap. It doesn't explain why hard working kids of all colors and backgrounds are working minimum wage jobs and attending Community College. Oh yeah, they have to pay the taxes that go to 'public housing', emergency room costs, street cameras, gunfire sensors, courts, and $33,000+ to house just one prisoner for a year.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 165
melkonjian, I would agree with your post, but how can you call that drivel "reasoning?" Just kidding, I agree. But I like to think of it as excuse making, it makes more sense that way. I find it peculiar that trouble keeps explaining away the behavior of these criminals based on the notion that they are just trying to survive. I am no stranger to the ghetto, and I never cease to be amazed at the amount of money spent on $300 athletic shoes, brand-name clothing, manicures/pedicures, weaves and 22" chrome rims. In the meantime, the kids are existing on an orange soda and Cheetos diet from the local liquor store. The problem here is that the only thing these criminals want to achieve is the appearance of wealth, without having to earn it. Apparently they do not know that it is better to be rich, than to appear to be rich! (And just in case trouble wants to claim I came from privilege, know this - my mom dressed me in clothes from Thrift Town, she made me walk to school to save gas money, she packed my lunch because it was cheaper than the school lunch, she bought food from the Grocery Outlet and we didn't buy books we got them from the library.) Screwed up priorities from screwed up people in a screwed up city...and on and on it goes!
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 370
(In the meantime, the kids are existing on an orange soda and Cheetos)Jif you are craaaaa[bleep]zzzyyyy (lmao)(lmao). You touch on some good points because you have hit this as well as others on the head. In these cases the blind are leading the blind. If you were to approach, I want to say 85% of these liquor store shopping, Queens of instant or hot water meals(lmao) and told them they were doing wrong you would have to do something to one of them! Jif what is going on, is while you had a mother and I had a great grandmother they had sister girl and nem OH, and don't forget pookie and bo-bo. No need for a book library but I bet they got more cd's and bootlegged movies than you can shake a stick at. See Jif I come from a crazy history is why I often seem to be siding with them! At the age of eleven me,(Lord Bless his soul) my brother 14 and my uncle 18 had to pay $1100 a month rent no bull true story!!!! My great grandmother and grandmother passed away my grandfather started smoking drugs heavy, he actually gave me my first drugs to sale this was the summer of 88!!! What were we to do? We paid it, we handled it for sometime but I can remember not having anything to eat but corn meal,eggs and some rice my aunty C.C who was a dopephine made hot water corn bread and rice!!! But I said that to say, I did not ask for that position, but we had to deal with it and a lot of these people are still on the back draft of those days!!! They just don't know any better it became away of life. Just as your parents getting up going to work. (Except their care takers)I'm not going to say parents because they were in the street defiantly not being parents got up and went to do wrong. They are use to that way of life its normal to them. Had it not been for my great grandmother instilling the fear of god in me,I would be one of the problems!!!! ALL OF MY FRIENDS I WENT TO ELEMENTARY AND JR.HIGH WITH ARE DEAD OR IN JAIL I MEAN ALL!!!! If you go to my neighborhood you may find ten people in my age bracket!
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 165
trouble, I am not arguing with you about where some of the root causes are. I am glad you still have a soul that cares about this stuff, considering what you dealt with in your childhood. What I, and others, are saying is that we would like to see an acknowledgment of the wrong doing in the media from the families, lawyers, pastors, as opposed to excuses. Take for instance the Gary King incident - the day that story broke I saw grown men on TV saying that King did nothing wrong, and in their second breath they say he was fighting with the officer to try to get away! How can anybody take those opinions seriously? Fighting with the police IS wrong. Now the family has hired a lawyer who has the gall to say that King did nothing wrong, despite the fact that he is not denying that King had a gun. Again, carrying a loaded and concealed gun in your waistband IS wrong. Doing the right thing isn't about shades of gray, it is generally black and white. Finally, you seem to be acknowledging that the problem is with the parents. None of these girls are going to listen to a middle-aged white woman about not getting pregnant and ruining their lives and, more importantly, the lives of their children. They might listen to you if you told them that given the option, you would not have lived the life you had to because of the poor choices made by the adults in your life. You could tell them that you would have preferred a stable home where love and concern for your education and well being were top priorities. You could tell them that those priorities require a lot of personal sacrifice on the part of the parents, and that you can guarantee that at their age they are not ready to make those sacrifices (nor should they.) You will not be popular for saying those things, but if you save one 11 year old from having to sell crack to support their grandfather's addiction then you have made a difference!