Posted on Tuesday, 10/27/2009 - 8:50 p.m. PDT — by ResevoirMan
The murders that Ms. Drummond references are tragedies all; that is not in question. What is in question, however, is Ms. Drummond's constant arbitrary references to past events. Over 100 people have been murdered in Oakland since last summer; why does her column revolve around these specific murders? Does she have a personal connection? Is it because these murders were recently re-visited in the Trib? I wish she would fully disclose her reasoning lest we think - as usual - that this is just another piece of hysteria pulled from the cobwebs of her mind.
Ultimately, of course, it is the editors fault...assuming there was one. All that drama in the first two paragraphs (well, one sentence and one paragraph) don't set the reader up for an understandable column. I realize Ms. Drummond is not a reporter; but as she purports to be a writer, it might be helpful if she could actually craft an understandable story Or at least one based on a plausible premise. As it stands, it looks like a bunch of disjointed exclamations to me.
Please. Learn how to craft a paragraph. And then learn how to weave them into a readable column. Your one-liners are more suitable for Twitter.
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It would be helpful if reservoir man could get his facts straight before submitting an ignorant post. "100 people have been murdered in oakland since last summer?" where pray tell did you find that stat? The fact is as of Sept. 23, 82 people had been murdered in 2009. I'm sure it would be news to the Oakland Police Department to learn that there had been 100 murders since last summer.
Maybe you should take some time to learn your facts. What is your point? Beyond your concern about whether or not I know how to construct a paragraph, there really doesn't seem to be one.
If you can't understand the story, perhaps you should learn how to read.
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Let me help Tammerlin. You must count all the murders that occurred since last Aug or Sep (traditional end of summer months for most Americans) 2008 to date. That is what 100 murders since last summer means. Had res man said since the beginning of this year you might have had him on the stats, but he did not say that.
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Wow. Pretty pathetic when someone can't distinguish between "since last summer" and "since January 1st". Perhaps the writer is from the Southern Hemisphere where it is summer in January. Or perhaps they're just stupid. Hmmm...I vote for the latter.
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I am trying to figure out what POINT you are trying to make here and how your comments can, in any way, help solve these crimes (which was the entire reason Ms Drummond followed the original story up)....These two cases are still unsolved!!!!!! I am the mother of the murder victim, Adrienne Parker, and all I have to say to you is that, if you cannot assist in this investigation, I (and most concerned and rational people) couldn't care less about your English lesson as it has nothing to do with this case, PERIOD.....I can tell you that I am grateful to the Oakland Tribune's writers and the Oakland Police homicide investigators for not allowing this case to become just another statistic/cold case. These killers are still 'on the loose' and, until they are caught, YOU, one of your family members or friends, or any innocent bystander could become the next victim of these criminals....Please try to focus on the issue, at hand, and less on, what amounts to, in my opinion, insignificant drivel.....Just sayin'....
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Sadly, the POINT I was trying to make has been lost. As I am not of your "culture", I was not standing around on a street corner, dealing drugs or pimping out a 13 year old late at night, fully looking for trouble. Therefore, I did not witness the crime. However, I guarantee that people of your "culture" did witness this event, but have chosen not to snitch.
This has become a "statistic/cold case" because your culture wants it to be that way. I am truly thankful that in my little world, people still believe that criminals do not deserve to be protected. As long as you do, your daughter's murder is partially your responsibility.
I am white, I don't frequent prostitutes on Int'l or Foothill, and I don't buy drugs/hang out on street corners late at night. As a result, I am part of the 0% of people in my demographic who were murdered in Oakland in the last 20 years (with the exception of the Black Muslim Bakery murder of a white guy "just because he was white".) Nice.
Blech. Ever wonder why people are "racist"? If so, please re-read the preceding paragraphs.
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I will make this short and to the point. YOU have no idea what my daughter was doing in that area, at that time of night, nor do you have any idea what 'race' I am. You know even less about culture and zilch about TACT. I won't even bother to address the rest of your baseless, factless post, save to say that, YOU have no idea what you are talking about, PERIOD......GO and peddle your racist theories somewhere else and PRAY that you and yours are never confronted with a 'random act of violence' (regardless of the perp/s race)......
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"Sadly, the POINT I was trying to make has been lost."
Not to worry..it's floating along in the cesspool of white racist verbiage..no doubt to reappear at any opportunity to take tragedy and pervert it into white racist propaganda ..you'll be fine.
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You said, "...I (and most concerned and rational people) couldn't care less about your English lesson as it has nothing to do with this case, PERIOD." You are correct. The comments posted under an article have nothing to do with the actual cases about which the articles are written. They are usually about what the poster thinks about the case or the writer of the aricle. The problem arose when the writer of this article responded to a post and summarily placed her foot in her mouth by not understanding simple English and not employing basic logic. You may be thankful to her for keeping the story in the paper. Thanks for leaving the English and logic to someone more qualified.
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Thanks for sharing......but......I couldn't care less about your assessment of my logic or English skills.....Hope you are feeling better having gotten that last 'ad hominem' off of your chest.....Have a nice day!!!!!!
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Actually my assessment was of Tammerlin Drummond, but you can join her if you like.
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".. a post and summarily placed her foot in her mouth by not understanding simple English and not employing basic logic. You may be thankful to her for keeping the story in the paper."
elliptical, redundant , ambiguously worded..
"Thanks for leaving the English and logic to someone more qualified."
That most certainly is neither you nor other hate mongering racist sociopath vermin who could express such callous disregard for a woman who lost her child.
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Pay close attention to the post above your second post. Did you and Tammerlin graduate from the same school of comprehension?
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Maybe Tammerlin should take her own advice, and learn how to read before writing .... especially before publishing disinformed insults for and about others, from her pulpit of pseudo-authority as a paid author.
1.) On 08/29/2009 this Oak.Trib. reported on the murder this Op Ed piece targets:
"The woman's death was the city's 72nd homicide of the year. Last year at this time there had been 93 homicides in the city."
(see: insidebayarea.com/ci_13230450)
2.) An easily found statistic states there were 125 murders in Oakland, CA in 2008. So, anyone with rudimentary math skills, (and certainly a writer who opines on this devastating topic), should be able to determine there that since last summer of 2008, (or at least, after end of Aug. 2008 thru end of Dec. 2008) there were 125 - 93 = 32 Oakland murders.
3.) Two days ago (10/26/09) Oak.Trib. (= the news source employing Tammerlin Drummond to write/publish her often-specious Op Ed pieces) wrote of Oakland's 94th homicide of 2009, a 66 y.o. man dead in his East Oakland car.
(see: insidebayarea.com/oakland/ci_13643753)
32 + 94 = 126 Oakland murders since 2008 summer. Or at least, since after end of Aug. 2008.
Maybe if Tammerlin Drummond took the time to actually read the news source she works for, or at least, invest a few minutes to research news archives before sermonizing), she wouldn't have typed such foot-in-mouth nonsense as her above comment.
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Huh? You talk about porky hittin the holy water, sounds like u been hittin the gin. You sure put a lot of energy in2 this which is out of character 4 u. I was able to comprehend the article very well & I'm feelin her even more in regards to the good samaritan. I don't always agree w/ Drummond either but think u may have her mixed up w/ another female-writer who writes (or wrote) for the trib. I forgot her name since my friends & I stopped reading her column almost 2, 3yrs now. I assume this b/c she covered one particular murder case that took up an entire pg in the paper for a week when the murder map came out. Ppl questioned if she had a personal relationship w/ this young adult victim who wasn't the glistening angel & as likable as she & his family portrayed him to be. I think maybe that's the writer you're referring to(?)
If not, than I believe Drummonds covered this story b/c it's very disturbing to normal SANE human-beings to read about other normal SANE human-beings getting murdered, maimed & paralyzed while buying take-out or sitting in their own cars minding their own self-business, huh? Also, maybe b/c these victims weren't lumped up w/ Oakland's criminal element their tragedy could have happened to ANYbody which is why it hits home for EVERYbody. Ppl like you have whined about OPD not getting enough help from residents & criticize our communities daily in this forum. Now that an Oakland 'resident/writer' tries to help by shedding more light on a tragedy that took down "3" innocent victims, killing one, you get paranoid & decide she has motives & demand she explains her deceptive reasoning for CARING??? Caring is part of being a decent human being, and obviously her aim was to tug at the conscious of those who may have more info. Get a clue or CATCH UP, rezman. No u didn't expect her to squeeze 100 murders into ONE article?
As for your statement, "..this is just another piece of hysteria pulled from the cobwebs of her mind." We all know u wouldn't consider it "hysteria" if someone busted on u & put u out of commission or put u down 8 ft under. Distorted sarcasm & illogical criticism is what ppl resort to when they play the weaker hand. You may be angry about something but it doesn't give u the right to be cruel to others
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Oh, bluepeas, you poor, illiterate mess.
I didn't even bother to read your post - I never learned text-Ebonics.
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Oh you read my post all right, b/c you sure in h(ell) didn't come back here to read your own.
That lame response is just an excuse for you to keep being PETTY-MINDED & keep flaming this dumb off-topic string you created. I see typos in every news site I read but I got a life so anything that's going to be meaningless to me a week later IS IRRELEVANT b/c I'm bigger than some petty typo bull. To intelligent readers w/ good common sense, as long as they know what the writer was referring to, they suck it up & push forward. And by the way, why are you portraying to be a MAN? I was shocked after reading your postings on this thread...and, "Oh, bluepeas, you poor, illiterate mess". Lol, you sound hella gay. If you are...stop faking & come out the closet. Thank God, my gay friends aren't small-minded & sissy-fied like you. If you are 100% man, you're a sorry-excuse for one & I'd hate to see any female that finds a petty mind-set like yours interesting, good grief *blah blah blah*! You're worst than my stuffy 73 yr old mother, and messy, openly whining about the most ignorant stuff to anybody that'll listen if no one gets her out of the house 3 days straight. Are you joyless, rez? You need to get out, huh? I'm outta here & offa this lame thread*yawn*
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What are you? 12? You said, "...you sound hella gay. If you are...stop faking & come out the closet." Please go away with this stuff, especially if you are going to accuse others of name calling to win their arguments.