The politicians [including the Alameda County Sheriff] have disarmed law abiding citizens - now only the criminals have weapons - AND ALWAYS WILL REGARDLESS OF THE LAWS - THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS!
If law abiding citizens had concealed weapons permits and could carry their weapons openly, then crime would plummet. After a few thugs are exterminated, the message would spread and they would no longer risk their lives to commit crimes knowing that the consequences of their criminal behavior are too high.
If carrying weapons are illegal why are there so many illegal weapons, shootings and murders? Gun laws don't work and never will. They only prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. The criminals know that the politicians have disarmed law abiding citizens, so they are free to prey on us. Only the politicians and the political elite have been allowed to have concealed weapons permits. They are at no higher risk than the rest of us, yet they consider their lives to be more valuable than ours!
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 36
I've watched this debate on gun control for a very long time. I'll personally never own a gun, actually never held a gun and wouldn't let my child enter a home I knew had a gun. But............do gun control laws really matter? Particularly in respect to the out of control violent crime in Oakland? I talked with someone high up in the Alameda County District Attorney's office and he told me that when an felon on probation is caught with a gun, they are not put back in prison unless there are special circumstances. That's insane. And THAT would be gun control to ALWAYS put them back in jail.
The D.A. is not part of city government, it is an elected Alameda County position. Oakland politicians and even OPD have some but little influence, and everything is driven by money, of course--both political influence and budgets.
So, if you really want gun control, stop wasting your time on the b.s. and demand we start putting people who break the law with a gun in prison. Now THAT would have a real, tangible influence on our violent crime rate! The rest is a diversion, fiddling while the city burns.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3
Could not have said it better myself. Hype and hyperbole in headlines try to sell newspapers but offer no real world workable solutions, like those who have commented on this article have.
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12
Have you heard about the proposed "Jamiel's Law." An individual arrested for a violent offense was released on his own recognizance and promptly went out and murdered a teenage boy in a racially motivated crime.
In my view, parolees found with firearms, knives, drugs, and so on should go back to prison, and not just for two weeks as is the common practice. However, this would mean real work for the courts, police, and so on - so it is easier to pass laws and not enforce them and to pass new laws that penalize the non-criminal and are irrelevant to the problem at hand.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1
At no time has it ever been illegal for someone to possess or own an "assault weapon". Under the federal law that expired in 2004, firearms that were lawfully owned before 1994 and defined as AWs were legal to own, keep, use, and even transfer to others. All that law did was make it illegal to import or manufacture firearms with certain features - like threaded muzzles and bayonet lugs - which did nothing to make them more dangerous than similar weapons without those features. Rifles like the AR-15 and semiautomatic variants of the AK-47 were reconfigured by their manufacturers to make them comply with the law, and sold in large numbers during the "ban". The expiration of the AW ban did absolutely nothing to hurt public safety.
Very few handguns qualified as "assault weapons". I don't know where you got your information, but a lot of it is flat out wrong; and you clearly haven't checked the facts at all.
From her hyperbolic description, Deane Calhoun seems to be under the mistaken impression that "assault guns" (yet another strange twist in terminology) fire in fully automatic mode, like machineguns. That is not correct - The federal AW ban specifically addressed semiautomatic firearms, which fire one round with each pull of the trigger just like revolvers do. Fully automatic weapons have been strictly regulated by the federal government since 1934, and the use of legally owned ones in crime is almost unheard of.
Crime rates have nothing to do with gun laws - They are correllated with economic conditions. The more people who are poor and desperate, the more people turn to crime. It's really that simple. To fix crime, fix poverty. Make sure every kid has access to a good education.
Extending background checks to private-party transfers of used guns might actually be a good idea, but there is a big problem - The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to regulate occasional, non-commercial, private sales of used goods. Current federal law specifically prohibits people other than licensed gun dealers from using the National Instant Check System that is used in most states to verify that a gun buyer is not prohibited from owning a firearm. California regulates private-party transfers. Any state could theoretically do the same, but the idea is a political non-starter in most of the country.
I say lobby the federal government to make NICS available to the general public, with safeguards to keep it from being misused. Strictly enforce the existing prohibitions against certain people like convicted felons from buying guns. Keep violent criminals in jail until they are so old they are unlikely to offend again. Those are realistic suggestions.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3
Could not have said it better myself. Hype and hyperbole in headlines try to sell newspapers but offer no real world workable solutions, like those who have commented on this article have.
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4
Enforce the laws we have and stop disarming law abiding citizens.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1
Most homicide victims in the U.S. have criminal records. About 53% according to one study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, or perhaps 70%, according to another study in the NEJM. And that’s just the victims; the perpetrators are much worse. The predominant story of homicide in the U.S. is “criminals killing other criminals”.
Want to cut down on homicides? Give violent offenders longer sentences, and keep them behind bars for the full length of their sentences. Nearly 100% of murderers are already legally forbidden to possess a gun; what good would it do to pass another gun-control law? Would that make it “double-secret-illegal”?
Last week in Philadelphia a policeman was murdered by a known felon with nearly TWO DOZEN unprosecuted arrests for unlawful weapons possession! If even ONE of these violations had been prosecuted, the perp would still be in jail and the officer would still be alive.
Come on! It’s simple! Lock ‘em up!
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4
For those that believe "gun control" will stop homicide, the latest "weapon of choice" in the UK for criminal youth is knives.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080527.wwstabbing27...
So much for Deane Calhoun's theory.
Watch the news 50 years from now when we have outlawed guns and knives. There will be a call for background checks on people trying to buy frying pans.
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 370
THIS IS WHERE OUR PROBLEMS COME FROM. THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING AND IS IN CHARGE OF FIXING IT. TO EVEN PUT GUN CONTROL AND FIXING THE HOMICIDE RATE IN THE SAME SENTENCE, SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT WHATS GOING ON! TO MANY GUNS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD, SO THAT IS A WAIST OF TIME! OUR PROBLEM CHILDS DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THE MAYOR IS LET ALONG GOING IN A STORE TO BUY A GUN!
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1
If, as the article insinuates, violent crime in Oakland has increased as a direct result of the lapsing of the 1994 "assault weapons" ban, then why does severe gun violence seem to be limited to places like Oakland, Compton and perhaps East Palo Alto? I visit my family-in-law in the South Bay a couple of times a year, and I have yet to hear gunfire at all in San Jose, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, (non-East) Palo Alto, etc. at all, let alone on a near-daily basis. Could it be that Oakland's problems are not caused by supposedly "lax" gun laws in states neighboring California, but that the problem is with Oakland itself? And that therefore the answer to Oakland's problems will not be found in tightening gun laws?
Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of economics understands that where there is a demand for a good or service, demand will seek out a supply. That's why the "War on Drugs" has been such an abysmal failure: because it has been overly focused on attempting to interdict supply, and insufficiently focused on reducing demand. And as long as the demand exists, enterprising people will find ways to supply it. Similarly, if there is a demand for among Oakland's criminals for guns, somebody will find a way to get guns to them. Even if the United States could all but eliminate private gun ownership and destroy the bulk of firearms in private hands, guns would still find their way into criminal hands. Perhaps smuggled in via Mexico or across the Caribbean, along with (or in place of a small part of) the tons of cocaine and crystal meth that are already smuggled into the US year after year.
In spite of the comparatively tight gun laws in western Europe, European criminals have no trouble acquiring firearms if they want them. They may not be able to acquire them by theft from private citizens or via straw purchases, so instead the guns are smuggled in from eastern Europe. Trying to eliminate violent crime by tightening gun laws is merely treating a symptom of the disease instead of its cause.
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5
Guns are easiest to use when killing someone. Using a knife means you have to get close and that could be dangerous for you. Even a 85 lb. child can use a gun to kill a 200 lb. adult. High powered rifles can kill someone from over a quarter of a mile away - as the "Beltway Sniper" proved - a knife cannot do this. What we really need to be looking at is how we got to this extreme culture of violence and what perpetuates it. The violence of American against American is a societal-cultural phenomenon which defines us and identifies us. It includes a comfortability with violence and may extend to "the need" for violence as the Romans learned. One may theorize that violence and killing other human beings is "normal" for human beings and that a peaceful non-violent coexistence is a fairy-tale. If this is true, then the future of human "civilization" is at risk and the collateral damage to the environment and plant and animal species is at risk. Let's stop the "Space program" and confine our need to destroy and damage to this one planet. And, there really is no God (sorry).
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12
In the UK those who want to dispatch people without risk poison them; it's gone on for decades and is often undetected.
I think those who obsess on cultural phenomenon need to quit reifying, and look at the actual causes of violence, cause which have little to do with a "need" for violence nor with inanimate objects, and a lot to do with fatherless boys with bad role models and no real career prospects.
This sort of reification is one reason the violence goes unabated; blaming inanimate objects and cultural phenomenon means no one deals with the root causes of violence.
Of course, I'm in favor of ending *all* senseless violence, not just gun violence.