Posted on Friday, 5/29/2009 - 9:44 p.m. PDT — by AndreasLights
African-Americans are struggling with some basic facts. Many are faithful to the teachings of the Bible. Since the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong, a sin, an abomination, Christians are taught to feel negatively towards the subject. But the Bible also says eating shrimp and lobster is a sin, as is commerce on Sundays, marrying your brother's widow, and a whole host of other no-no's that are easily forgotten.
Also, it is important to note that homosexuality in the Bible had everything to do with men forcing themselves on boys, and nothing to do with private consensual behavior between two adults.
Perhaps the biggest challenge for persons of recent African descent is the notion of equivalence between the struggle their ancestors and they have endured over the past 300 years, and what gay people are going through now and have gone through for over 5,000 years.
At the center of the debate is whether people choose to be homosexual. At the center of ALL arguments against same-sex marriage, you will find the fundamental belief that being gay is a choice. Nothing could be further from the truth. Nobody chooses their sexual orientation. Someone who can choose between men and women is bisexual. I don't know any heterosexuals who can honestly say that they remember sitting down and deciding to be straight. What comes naturally to you is what you are. The same for me.
Sure, there are people who say they are "Ex-Gay." Whether they are being dishonest, successfully brainwashed or were actually bisexual and could go either way, only each individual can say for sure.
I tried for years and years to be straight. I broke several hearts of young ladies I dated, but sorry, nothing happened. No spark, no romance, no attraction. Several of the women I dated are now lesbian, by the way. I wanted so badly to be "normal" but I couldn't be something I'm not.
African-Americans MUST understand that being gay is not a choice: the only choice is whether to accept one's self as is, as designed by the Creator, or to suppress or repress what is natural and what is given to us. Some choice, right?
This is why it is so very sad that African-Americans are fighting against Equality for gay people. You got yours, now we want ours. Bayard Rustin was gay, and MLK, Jr. loved him like a brother. Without Bayard, there would have been no March on Washington.
We must join together and put aside our religious differences. People's lives are at stake here. This isn't some abstract argument. If EVERYONE is not treated equally, then nobody is. YOU are superior, and I am inferior, until Marriage Equality is the law of the land.
People of color need to stand up and say, "Hey, I used to think homosexuality was bad because the Bible told me so. Now I understand it's a matter of civil rights, of equality, and it's time to pay back the favor--or pay it forward.
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The only fundamental difference between opposite-sex and same-sex couples is that accidental pregnancies can result from the former, but not the latter.
We are on a collision course with destiny. Either we change our rate of reproduction or we will deplete our natural resources and go extinct along with most other species.
The homosexual component of the human sexual equation has been suppressed for over 5,000 years along with other, non-procreative behaviors and relationships. Why? National Security. In a low-tech, pre-nuclear society, increasing the population meant "safety in numbers" and survival against those who would overthrow "us." Only one in every one hundred people is suitable for combat. The more people, the more warriors, the better our chances of survival... in the short term.
In the long term, as in millions of years, we must achieve an equilibrium with our finite environment. Without the impact of homosexuality, we might have already reached the critical mass, point of no return, collapse of the ecosystem.
Without this natural form of birth control, we will certainly perish before long.
Gay people are a perfect example of Man's over-thinking God's design. Homosexuality exists and it is here for a reason. Many of the world's problems can be traced back to our self-induced sexual repression.
We say "In God We Trust," but where's the trust? We don't trust that God's eternal plan, which includes our cousins who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, trangender, intersexed, etc. etc.
Instead, we take words written down by people (in the Bible) that have been attributed to God, and use them to force population growth, in order to win the race to out-populate our enemies.
Lastly, two men or two women are just as capable of bearing children as our heterosexual counterparts. With gay people, it is necessarily a conscious act, and not the result of mindless lust or monthly miscalculation.
Sing "God is Trying to Tell You Something."
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Andreas Lights, your story is beautifully told, and you have much to contribute to society. Your historical perspective on why homosexuality is or isn't accepted fits an economic model of how mores are established. In many cultures, homosexuals have been afforded a special, mystical status, and I have contended that biologically, some 10% of all species are attracted to the same sex, and therefore normal. When I posited in another thread that since God made us all, God must not be normal, someone missed my facetiousness and attacked my God, as if he were some other god. I'm glad to hear that the California NAACP is supporting equal rights, and more congregations are speaking out for justice. The tyranny of the majority is unsustainable, for the downtroddened, the disenfranchised who keep demanding to be heard will eventually prevail. Keep the faith, because social change is coming, for the better. Those narrow-minded fundamentalists who think the last few elections validate their postion are standing at the foot of the mountain trying to hold back an avalanche.
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Unfortunately, some African-American pastors are using this issue to increase their power and financial status (increased $ contributions). They are morally and ethically bankrupt and their churches are no different than terrorist sleeper cells - promoting violence, death and discrimination. Their behaviors are shameful & disgusting. Surely, they will burn in Hell for their perversions.
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We told you "No" twice in this state what part of no don't you understand !!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as the NAACP is concerned I will no longer support or respect them. They a dead to me.
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blkparis wrote: We told you "No" twice in this state what part of no don't you understand !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Answer: What part of Equal don't YOU understand? There is a flaw in California's referendum system; a SIMPLE majority is empowered to take rights away from the minority! It should be a minimum of 60%, not 50%!!!
We will not stop fighting for our rights until we get them. YOU are on the wrong side of history. The sooner a majority of Californians realize this, the sooner Equality can finally be realized. Get with it!
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HOMOSEXUALITY IS THE GATEWAY TO DEBAUCHERY. FIRST THEY MARRY EACH OTHER THEN ITS SEX WITH CHILDREN THEN ITS SEX WITH THE ANIMALS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!
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At the center of ALL arguments against same-sex marriage, you will find the fundamental belief that being gay is a choice.
Even more central than that is a disapproval of homosexuality itself. You don't share that disapproval, so I'll ask you to think of a personality characteristic of which you do disapprove -- dishonesty, cowardice, sadism let's say. (I'm not claiming that homosexuality is bad like those other things, I'm just trying to explain another point of view so please bear with me.) Now we really don't know if these other things are any more voluntary than homosexuality. Do cowards choose to be cowards? Can a sadist choose to not take pleasure in the suffering of others? OK, so having established that, how would you feel about a movement to eliminate discrimination against cowards by awarding military decorations for cowardice and courage equally? Or how about requiring that hospitals hire nurses without regard to whether they prefer to aleviate pain, or actively cause it? And would you be any more favorably disposed towards hiring sadistic nurses dishonest bank tellers, or promoting cowardly soldiers, if you thought their disagreeable personality traits were beyond their personal control?
If some people cringe in disgust at what I've just said, I regret that; my purpose is only to help you see things from a different point of view.